Just wanted to let you guys know that there's an update on the Chima community in general, and I'd like your feedback on it (especially on if you're happy going along with this plan). The update can be found here: (link)
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Yay! ^ _ ^
Anything more I should add?
All right, how's this link? (diff)
All good. I'll add that link to the main page when I can. All I'll ask is that, if I'm going to advertise for you guys, it would be nice if you could provide a link to the Chima wiki as well. It's not required by any means, but it would be nice as a way of setting up a mutual networking effort.
@JGREAD: That's what I figured. Thanks for making that clear!
@Thefirstdecade: Could you rephrase? I'm not sure which of a few things you're saying; whether you're saying that this wiki should stay independent but that a link to and from the Chima wiki wouldn't be so bad, or if you're saying that merging into the main wiki would be OK (which I highly doubt you'd say, but it looks like you might have said that), or if you'd said something entirely different from either of the things that I think you might have said.
(Also, @Thefirstdecade, you didn't bring me here; I was already here but invisible because I am ninja ;P)
Update: I tried drafting up such a template, but it turns out that transcluding pages from one wiki to another is pretty difficult. I asked someone on Community Central (the meta-Fandom-wiki) about it, and they said that transcluding pages from one wiki to another is "inadvisable, hard to maintain & vulnerable to lag/vandalism". As a result, I don't think we could transclude the pages cross-wiki, so I apologize for suggesting something that's apparently not feasible. I can certainly link this wiki from the main page of the Chima wiki, though (rather like the Ninjago wiki does), if that sounds good to people here.
I have one question: What with this wiki staying separate from the main Chima wiki, would people here want the fan information from other fan wikis to be merged into this wiki, or would people rather that these other wikis be merged into the main Chima wiki, thus leaving this wiki intact?
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That could be quite useful. If a fanon template could be drafted up such that it would have a button, or buttons, for viewing (and possibly editing) tracing back to here, that could very well help unite the community by blurring the line between one wiki and the other while still allowing the fan wiki to retain its sense of identity and independence from the main wiki. I'm going to see what I could do about such a template.
Well, thanks for that conclusion. Not being in the RP community myself just yet, it's nice to see that someone in the community (the founder, no less) thinks that the merge might make sense. From my point of view, I was just thinking that the community each here and at the main wiki could stand to be larger and more connected, being small enough that getting more content and users would help, not hurt; IMO, for better or for worse, we've got a long way to go before the community would get to a point like the Ninjago fanbase where it would need to split due to size. Like I said, though, it's very good to know the opinion of someone outside myself, especially given your status as this site's founder and bureaucrat. Few collaborative projects work without the people on both ends liking them.
As to transclusion, it's somewhat like copy-pasting in that you get to have the same thing in two places. The thing that sets transclusion apart from copy-pasting—and the reason why I prefer transclusion for this sort of thing—is that what transclusion essentially is is a method of having something in one place appear in another place but actually only be stored in the first place, such that changing it in the first place instantly updates it in the second place. For example, the Chimafigs template does this; rather than copying and pasting the template's text onto a given page, the template is transcluded, which means that, if I update the template with a new minifigure, that minifigure will appear on all of the template's pages without me having to go through and manually update each one. (If that still hasn't described transclusion, just think of it as a more complex version of copy-pasting; that's close enough to what it is.)
I should just add one more thing: IF there winds up being a complete merge from this wiki into the official Chima wiki, we should probably use the export tool to preserve article histories and make sure that nothing gets messed up in the process of moving stuff from one wiki to another. If that were being done, transclusion would be fairly irrelevant; however, I'm just bringing this up due to it being another alternative to copy-pasting that should be considered in the case of a full or partial merge.
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Thanks for the feedback!
I have a couple responses here:
1. I am not by any means trying to merge the show universe with the fan universe. What I am interested in doing is putting all of the information on one wiki so that people don't have to pick and choose as to where they'll be, what they'll put where, who they'll hang out with via official vs. fan-made, etc. If people want the wikis to stay separate, that's certainly all right; I just want to make sure that things aren't being kept separate due to a misconception over the idea that I'm merging the universes, as I'm not.
2. Having pages from fan wikis on the main wiki as well for easy transportation could work. However, I'd be dubious of simply copying and pasting. If possible, transclusion would probably be a better option; though I'd prefer a merge to transclusion, I'd far prefer transclusion to copying and pasting, as copying and pasting would be much harder to maintain than transclusion would.
If this changes anything or brings up any questions, please let me know. If not, I'd like to know as well; whatever the conclusion is, whether it goes my way or not, I'd like to know what people think so I can act accordingly.
Thanks again for responding to my post!
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